Interviewer: It’s a belief system that’s been around for thousands and thousands of years, so how could anyone access this wisdom by approaching it as fashionable?
Madonna: It isn’t until you’ve been studying for several years before you can let it inform your life. That’s why I started writing children’s books. I can assure you, five years ago – and I’ve been studying for nine years – there’s no way I would’ve said, I’m going to write kids’ books and give all the money away to charity. That’s not anything that was ever in my agenda. It took me a long time before I could go from the girl sitting in the back of the class [at the Kabbalah Centre], wowed by all the information, keeping notes to thinking, there is a point to this life, now I know why there’s chaos and suffering and pain in the world, and I actually can do something about it, and the world doesn’t revolve around me. It takes a lot of time, and you need to be with somebody who’s also interested in it, because you can’t be in a relationship where you are going down that road on your own. It felt really good to publish a book and to know it got into the hands of lots of kids, and to start reading letters from children who read The English Roses and said, “You know, when I read your book it made me think of how horrible me and my girlfriends were to this girl in school.” I thought, it’s so cool I’m helping kids, and I never thought I’d be doing that. I like the idea that people can change, and that everybody has to go through a painful process before they can realize that they’re idiots. I’ve written a sequel to The English Roses, and that’s going to be my thing, I’m going to keep writing sequels and start an English Roses thing – my ultimate goal is to have a TV series, in episodes, each one having to do with girls finding themselves in challenging situations.
Interviewer: That’s interesting, especially since I’ve read that you don’t let your own kids watch TV. Is that true?
Madonna: True. My kids don’t watch TV – we have TV’s, but they’re not hooked up to anything but movies.
Interviewer: Your kids don’t say, “Oh please, Mom?”
Interviewer: They’ve never had TV?
Madonna: No. TV is trash. I was raised without it. I didn’t miss anything. TV is poison. No one even talks about it around here. It’s like a moot point. We don’t have magazines or newspapers in the house, either.
Interviewer: Do you feel you have to censor some of the racier entertainment you’ve been famous for from your daughter?
Madonna: She doesn’t come to me and ask me much. She knows I’m a singer. She’s seen me on stage performing. She knows I made videos for MTV, but she doesn’t watch it, so she doesn’t ask any questions. My kids have my records and play them once in a while, but they’re sick of my music. They come see my shows all the time, but who wants to hear my music in this house? I don’t want to hear it. They both like listening to music. They play disco tag every night and they dance while they’re playing tag. My son is quite an imaginative dancer. It’s a fun game. There’s a whole performance involved, and you dance, and you’re supposed to fake the other person out that you’re not interested in tagging them by dancing. We all play – I play, my husband, the nanny. It’s fun. Every night before bed. My so uses all his adrenaline and then passes out – that’s a good night.
Interviewer: What kind of mom would you say you are?
Madonna: I’m the disciplinarian. Guy’s the spoiler. When Daddy gets home, they’re going to get chocolate. I’m a more practical person – I worry about their teeth, and make sure they’re taking care of themselves, and my daughter’s hygiene is good, what they wear, making sure they’re getting schoolwork done. That is not my husband’s area of expertise. He’s the fun guy. He takes them out once a week to this kids’ restaurant, and they go into the kitchen and make pizzas and draw on the tablecloths, and they have disco balls and really loud music, and that was his idea – I never would’ve thought of it. I’m doctor’s appointments, lessons, homework. I’m the boring one – I do all the necessary stuff, and he does all the fun stuff.
Interviewer: Is this how you imagined parenting to be?
Madonna: Yeah, because I’m a very disciplined person. I’m very scheduled, I make lists, I stick to the plan. We’re totally opposite. Guy is Mr. Spontaneous. My husband does all sorts of things – he’s teaching Rocco how to play chess right now – he’s a chess junkie, my husband. And he plays soccer with them – we have a house in the countryside, and we have horses and chickens – he’s just more into doing wild stuff, outside, taking them out on bikes. He’s good cop, I’m bad cop.