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Madonna Interview : Maclean’s

Madonna - Maclean's / May 15 1991

But she offered a thoughtful reply. “I’ve had nine months to adjust to the idea that he’s having a child with somebody,” she said. “So obviously, I got over my initial state of shock. I can only hope for the best for him.” Then she added: “Obviously, there are those thoughts — ‘Oh God, I was married to him and he wanted to have a baby with me.’ But I’m not married to him anymore, so I have to be realistic.” Madonna says that she wants to have children in the near future — “But I have to stop dating them,” she quipped.

Single: Meanwhile, she says that she is perfectly happy being single. “I have tons of friends, so it’s not like I’m sitting at home all night saying there’s nothing to do,” she says. Those friends include Beatty, although their romance is over. According to Madonna, their decision to split up was mutual. “You’re just with someone for a certain amount of time,” she said, “and then you move on. While Sean was competing with me in the career department, I think Warren felt that my image as a sex symbol was the competitive thing. Not that he was competing with me. But I felt that maybe he met his match.” She concluded: “We mutually didn’t trust each other. That was the bottom line.”

Beatty, 22 years older than Madonna, is notoriously shy with the media and clearly mistrusts Madonna’s appetite for self-revelation. “He comes from a different school of thought,” she said, “that if you reveal too much of yourself, no one is going to find you interesting anymore. I think that’s bullshit.” Reluctantly, Beatty allowed himself to be filmed for Truth or Dare. But recordings of his private phone conversations with Madonna were cut from the movie. “I knew Warren was upset about any of the footage being used,” she said, “so I thought there was no way he could deal with the fact that we taped a conversation and he didn’t know about it.”

Madonna says that for her, exposing her life to the camera was “a very therapeutic process,” although she added: “I don’t feel I’ve revealed everything about myself or been emotionally raped.” The documentary shows her prostrating herself on her mother’s grave, kneeling onstage in homage to her father on his birthday and serving as den mother to her male dancers and female singers. The troupe, she says, became a surrogate family that “allowed me to exorcise my maternal feelings, to be the mother I didn’t have.”

The history of Madonna Louise Veronica Ciccone is already well documented — the third of six children, she grew up in a crowded bungalow in Pontiac, Mich.; she was named after her mother, who died of cancer when Madonna was 5; she felt betrayed when her father, automobile engineer Tony Ciccone, married his former housekeeper, Joan. And the chronicle of Madonna’s rise to stardom is the stuff of legend — from her discovering art and culture at 15, under the influence of a homosexual ballet teacher, to her being discovered dancing by a disc jockey on a Manhattan dance floor at 21. The singer’s first two albums, Madonna (1983) and Like a Virgin (1984), sold nine million copies. According to Forbes magazine, she earned $44.5 million last year alone.