Q: You were drumming in The Breakfast Club in 1979, in New York. Did you used to go to Studio 54?
Madonna: Ooh, that’s centuries ago, but what a cool era, what a cool club. The people there… I came in at the end of it so I missed Andy Warhol, Sterling Saint-Jaques [legendary New York club face], Liza Minnelli. For me the Danceteria and The Mudd Club were coming into their town.
Q: There’s a sense in a lot of your music of the dance floor being a magical place.
Madonna: The dance floor was quite a magical place for me. I started off wanting to be a dancer, so that had a lot to do with it. The freedom that I always feel when I’m dancing, that feeling of inhabiting your body, letting yourself go, expressing yourself through music. I always thought of it as a magical place… even if you’re not taking ecstasy.
Q: Though people will take ecstasy to Ray Of Light.
Madonna: But ecstasy’s been around for a hundred years. It was around when I was going to clubs. What’s the big deal?
Q: No, it’s still a big deal. In Britain ecstasy didn’t really happen until 1987, 1988 and it changed everything.
Madonna: [Regards Q as if studying Primitive Man] You guys are still taking ecstasy, not Special K? ‘Cos ketamine is the big drug over here now. You’re in the K Hole, swimming out of your body, and don’t imagine you’re gonna get up in the morning. I think the whole record would sound great on drugs. It’ll make you feel like you’re in the K Hole. It whips you in a frenzy. I took some remixes to Liquid in Miami and the DJ’s were just going mad for it. You can definitely imagine what it would be like to be high and listening to it. But I have to get there on my own. [Cod-angelic] I have a child now, I can’t do that sort of thing.
Q: The In Bed With Madonna film turned out to be the definitive piece of negative publicity, but no one had gambled like that before. There seemed to be no fear of appearing…
Q: …All those things. And you didn’t care who saw it.
Madonna: But what’s the point of making a documentary if you’re not going to show those sides? Then it wouldn’t be a documentary, right? Let’s face it, the life of a… of whatever-you-wanna-call-me… on the road, you’ve got to see all of that. It’s a real slice of life. It’s of an era, of a time, and it’s true of the insanity of performing and the insanity of performing and the insanity of traveling with this bunch of dysfunctional people. Even in a movie, how can you be sympathetic towards a fictional character if you don’t see their warts?
Q: That’s an awful lot of warts, though.
Madonna: I don’t think there were that many. I look at that movie and I think, My God how petulant was I? And, Oh God, What a brat! But I’m not horrified by it. That’s where I was and I’ve grown up a lot since.
Q: Who are the Madonna fans now?
Madonna: I haven’t a clue.
Q: What are the best Madonna records?
Madonna: Like A Prayer is pretty much up there. And I really like Bedtime Stories. I don’t think a lot of people “got” that record.
Q: It was better than Erotica. You hobbled yourself there, trying to make a concept album.
Madonna: Absolutely. I bit off more than I could chew. Bedtime Stories had better songs though the feel was similar. [Affects chat show wimper] But this record is my favorite record of all.